ditto!

[Grady1627]

ditto!

[Marina]

Marina Wrote:

Rio, or any other part of Brazil, does NOT need more of that shit.

Well, Rio can use all the foreign investments that it can take Marina. What do you care, you're from Sao Paulo anyways. But, I am suppose to take a linguistic's word for it.

Anyways, I do not want a shit load of Americans going to Brazilian "shitting" on the culture more than you do, but Rio has always been the play ground for the rich "white guys" for many years. Why can't blacks with money can't go there and have themselves a good time? As long as they respect the Brazilian culture and the city of Rio, I think that it is a great thing.

Peace,

Grady

Do you think you're being more respectful of Brazilian culture just because of your skin color? Have you read the other posts about ahem..darker gringos acting like fools, as much as their lighter compatriots, but oblivious to any criticism about their behavior because they think they "fit in"? As far as I'm concerned all the gringo fools should be jacked for everything they've got.

[BOREAL]

Brazil is dangerous!!! way dangerous than anywhere i've been before!!!

The people there is like chimpance behaving uncivilized and like troglodytes....

cavemen! that's their definition.

[Grady1627]

ditto!

[Marina]

And I don't understand your skin color question. No! I do not think that my skin color will make me more respectful of Rio more than some of my lighter counterparts. Look, Rio de Janeiro is a tourist destination you no. To some people, it's no different than a Cancun.

thanks for bringing that up.. the natives in Cancun are also digusted with ill-mannered horny ignorant gringos

To me, it is not a tourist destination, I went to explore the culture and look for investment opportunities. And I accomplished both! But I did enjoy myself. I had an advantage over a lot of "Brothas" though. Because I spoked Portuguse with the Natives and I knew all about the current events, talked politics and economics with Brazilians and they really respected me for that. I also had a Brazilian living in Barra Da Tijuca, waiting for me and schooling me about Copacabana and shit.. Most of the "Brothas" I met all went to Copa. That's Rio for most "brothas" Copacabana. I lived in Barra and I relaxed there. I prefer it overthere!

Is your Portuguese as good as your English?

[Grady1627]

ditto!

[SPINAROONI]

CANCUN GETS WAY MORE YANKEES THEN RIO DOES.

[Grady1627]

ditto!

[Marina]

PS, And I noticed were you're going with your question and it's a "one-way" street. I have no desire to prove to you that I can converse in portuguese. I had the same problem with some of the Brazilians I encountered in the shopping venues. They think that all "brothas" can't speak their language. Well, I really surprise a lot of them! And I hope that serves them a lesson, "don't judge a book by it's cover" and "Verisimilitude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

You noticed? No, Grady .... it was just a question ... I do think I know the answer but unlike you I won't make an accusation from a hunch, nor try to read between the lines.

[Chipolata]

Brazilian Favelas more Dangerous than American Projects?


It's a good question we would need some statistics, comparing the most dangerous ghettos in Brazils with the most dangerous in the US.

[Grady1627]

ditto!

[Marina]

Marina Wrote:

You noticed? No, Grady .... it was just a question ... I do think I know the answer but unlike you I won't make an accusation from a hunch, nor try to read between the lines.

Portuguese really isn't all the hard, at least, it wasn't for me. Because of my mother's creole background, she spoke French with us as a child. I picked up Spanish from my travels and hanging with the "Amigos," took a few Portuguese classes, listen to a shit load of samba, watch a few Brazilian films and the rest is history. Am I perfect with it? No! Some Brazilians speak "crazy" fast. But I think I have a good Portuguese foundantion, so don't try me.

Plus I don't know what's all the fuss about speaking Portuguese anyways, it really isn't all that pretty of a language for women to speak in my opinion. It can sound really "rough" at times... I still think women that speak French look the best. That is why Mulatas from some of the French colonies in the Caribbean look way better than Brazilians chics. Believe me I know!

Peace,

Grady

well, it's nice to hear a non-sexualized opinion about the Portruguese language for a change, gí©nial

[MoS.ArT]

Marina Wrote:

You noticed? No, Grady .... it was just a question ... I do think I know the answer but unlike you I won't make an accusation from a hunch, nor try to read between the lines.

Portuguese really isn't all the hard, at least, it wasn't for me. Because of my mother's creole background, she spoke French with us as a child. I picked up Spanish from my travels and hanging with the "Amigos," took a few Portuguese classes, listen to a shit load of samba, watch a few Brazilian films and the rest is history. Am I perfect with it? No! Some Brazilians speak "crazy" fast. But I think I have a good Portuguese foundantion, so don't try me.

Plus I don't know what's all the fuss about speaking Portuguese anyways, it really isn't all that pretty of a language for women to speak in my opinion. It can sound really "rough" at times... I still think women that speak French look the best. That is why Mulatas from some of the French colonies in the Caribbean look way better than Brazilians chics. Believe me I know!

Peace,

Grady

...... u....... bastard.......

[OliveBonita]

my father grew up in a favela. I do believe they are much more dangerous than Compton or South Central.

[pbrazil]

I have been to Brazil's favelas and I have to say, they are dangerous, but I have a few friends that lived in American projects and it seems to be more dangerous. Again, I don't want to send the impression that I think that American housing projects are poorer than Favelas. Because that is not true. The housing projects at least have running water and most basic essentials. I am only talking about "gangs," "shootings" and "thugs." I did see a police starting shoot at a couple guys in a Rio favela.

Rio de Janeiro is pretty dangerous all around man. I mean dumb tourist like the Irish-guy have to be careful. A lot of tourist go to carnaval in Rio and come home in a "bodybag." Anyway, if anyone has a similar experience, feel free to share.

Peace in the favelas,

Ummm I started to read these posts. ummm ... I wonder where these people have been.

I lived in Memphis, TN, NYC (11st Ave A and B, Queens, Midtown in a welfare hotel, Uppe Westsite) Rio de Janeiro (2 years copacabana, piratininga outside of Niteroi, Sao Conrado via Vidigal as I was on Avenida Niemeyer) and lots of other places.

I had a guy stick a gun in my face in a project Memphis, TN. He was going to kill this white boy he said unless I turned over my money. I saved a guy from a knife hold up in front of my building in NYC and I could tell you all kinds of other stories.

I rode the bus EVERY day in Rio. People on my bus lived in Vidigal and Rocinha if I went that route. I one time took the bus that went through Rocinha and over the hill in Gavea, Leblon. I shopped at the same supermarket that served people who lived in Rocinha.

I never saw any violence. Never. One time (when I was a tourist in Brazil I was pick-pocketed). I never got hassled by the Police, on the contrary. I did used to visit a friend who lived up the hill in the back of Ipanema near posto 6 I think it was and I saw bullet marks on her building.

I used to work with Brazilians in NYC. I had a guy working for me who I knew before he went to prison and after he got out for killing a guy. The guy was a little wacky but he was not hateful. I never, ever met a Brazilian who had hate in him like I've seen in people from the U.S.

There may be utter poverty in Brazil. There may be gangs and some wild west stuff, no dbout about it but if someone asked me if I were to be dropped down in the middle of Vidigal or Rocinha or Bedford-Stuy .... I'll take Brazil any day.

Peter

[Tolo_B]

Pimp Wrote:

Interesting topic. I have never been to Rio but plan to go next month. I would tend to think Rio's ghettos are more violent though. It seems the value placed on human life is drastically lower there. Also, it sounds a lot easier to get away with crime there. In the US the threat of a long prison sentence does to some extent deter crime. That being said, never underestimate your suroundings because shit can jump of anywhere you go. Trust me, I've experienced it.

And to think I was the only pimp on here, good to here from fellow Pimpsers man. Anyways, I have been to a couple of Favelas in Rio man, and they are every bit as f*cked as Boriqua and the rest of the guys are saying, but I know for a fact that they never experience Magnolia at its "heyday." And I am not telling you no lie man, there was no such thing as value for life, and still isn't not in New Orleans man. New Orleans is more like a "third world country" anyway.

A lot of those "Cash Money" guys were not "singing" you guys a lie man. They definitely are not studio "ganngsta." Hell most of them cats were "strung" out of Herion and shit; the drug of choice for the Magnolia. I guess what I am trying to say is that, you don't have to be in foreign country to see outright "crime and poverty." It can be present right here in the US. New Orleans is great example of this.

peace,

grady

Grady, New Orleans is that bad? Have you ever been to NYC? I didn't know it was like that, I heard things but I didn't think anything could rival the shit that went on in Del Barrios (Spanish Harlem, Harlem period) in NYC (where I'm from).

Yo, New Orleans has projects that stretch on for f*****g Miles. Its crazy. I been all over NYC and never felt all that unsafe. A couple times in NO I didnt even feel safe in a car. No joke, crazy.

[puxa pistola naseem]

names naseem..im a marrocanbrazilian american born in south bronx ny.
my pops is from rio an ive been there visiting my brothers before they live in favela there.i cant front its real run down but ppl are still nice and crime is due to extreme poverty.here on the flipside south bronx...i think its much worse..basically though ppl here are poor thy still have more to eat and therefore are much bigger and sicker in the head.for example...
the ppl in bronx are much more cutthroat..since its basically black rican dominican haitian etc..ppl tend to figth over cultures to prove they tougher.i met gangstas on both sides and i have to say thugs in south bronx are much more vicious..remember brasils laws are basically extinct so they can wild out more..now here in us where u can catch electricchair for a murder..notice how many murders still go on..last week a friend of mines threw one of his boys off the roof of patterson housing projects,hten they went down scooped him stomped him some more bagged him up and dumped him in da river at night...i dont know bout no 40 pjs in queens but south bronx is def one of the worst hoods worldwide..an i been to many morros in rio..basically all..even my cousins in rio are killers..but its due to poverty and lack of law....still none of those compares to mddle east countries like palestine..where i seen israeli soldiers shoot unarmed ppl and at children as well..while they are in their territory..israeli gov is sick and no wonder these ppl are resisting.
from patterson houses east 143rd..

[Smiley]

Naseem wrote:

names naseem..im a marrocanbrazilian american born in south bronx ny.
my pops is from rio an ive been there visiting my brothers before they live in favela there.i cant front its real run down but ppl are still nice and crime is due to extreme poverty.here on the flipside south bronx...i think its much worse..basically though ppl here are poor thy still have more to eat and therefore are much bigger and sicker in the head

Hey Naseem, I agree with what your saying Homey! Hey how many actual thugs/ganstas did you see in the favelas as oppose to the South Bronx? I mean do them Brazlian "cats" even come off as tough guys or just guys trying to get out of poverty??

Smiley

[elegantgent]

grady or anyone. why do they call barra da tijuca rio's newest barrio? enjoyed it while i was there. i thought niteroi was cool. beats the heck out of copa except maybe for the ocean being cleaner in copa. i did stay in copa while i was there and at my girlfriend house in taquara. taquara i thought was ok also. in copa there was an attempted robbery made on my girlfriend as she was on her way to my apartment from work. that was around 10 at night on avenida atlantica across from the beach. she said it was two girls from the favelas that tried to rob her after she got off the bus. a landlord foiled the attempted robbery. she had her purse a bag of food and a bag with our clothes that she had taken home to wash. i told her to stop coming to copa after work, but she came anyway. i would wait for her at the bus stop since i could not convince her to come in a cab or stay home. as the others said, i dressed like everyday cariocas and observed surroundings also watched what areas i went into. ran into many people and had much fun everywhere.

[cman]

pimp, don't worry about anything these guys are sayin, just stroll in the favelas and let them know where you are from. Make sure you are all pimp out and are rockin it like Snoop in his Brazil video, hell them little favela dudes don't have nothin on a true playa like yourself. As a matter of fact, tell you about to take over the place and run it like a true gangsta.

Anyway, Grady, I have spent time hanging out in your city and you are right, it is bad. New Orleans tricks the northerner because things could be going real slow, every one looks like they are chillin in the cut, then all of a sudden somebody let the monkey out and all hell breaks loose.

Chip, the homicde rates in one favela alone would beat the whole city on New Orleans. There is no comparison. I work in drug prevention here, and I travel to other cities and help them out with there programs, and it aint got shit on the favelas. All of my friends in Rio live either in or right outside of favelas and I can't tell you how many times they talk to me on the floor as I can hear machine guns in the background.

I remember being in one Favela right after the traficants got into a fight with the police. The traficants were flying around the area in cars and their motorcycles strapped down with machine guns. Hell the little kids got the nines People would look at them as they rode by, and went about there business. IN the hood here if someone pulls out a machine gun people scatter.

Alright, I will be back with the flipside later