Invitation for Janer Cristaldo to participate in the forum

[Guest]

So what you are telling me is that races in America won't mix, right? Ghetto life forever. That’s sad. I believe the more mixture you have in your blood, the better. I don’t have a problem with melanin, for instance.

You don't have a problem with miscegenation because you base your identity on culture. Imagine being required to abdicate your Brazilian identity all of a sudden, loose the language, the culture, everything that marks you out as Brazilian. Would you find that easy to do? Of course not. In the same way, US Americans find the idea of what you're suggesting quite obnoxious and unpalatable. You are basically asking them to give up on their identity, which,as you should now be aware, is race-based. They consider the so-called "African-Americans" to be a different ethnic group to them, which is why they insist on calling marriages between US Americans and these "Afro-Americans" "intermarriage", since there's something very "inter" to them about such marriages. This is also why that "African-American" academic, Cornell West, could not for the life of him understand how he could be considered an Anglo-Saxon by that latino academic, and the mediator, Earl Shorris, who's "white", no doubt didn't understand this either.

If they can't do what you suggest after 400 years, then I don't think they can ever do it. Don't mistake today's "tolerance" for anything other than a thin veneer sprayed over this deep division. If someone had a forced, fixed smile, would you mistake that for a real smile? Even if it appeared real, it wouldn't be real in reality. And after a while, a forced, fixed smile starts to ache, as anyone who's had to stand there waiting for a slow-acting relative to take a photo would be able to testify.

That's what I call ghetto living. Maybe race, in country's where ghetto living is promoted, is equivalent to the Berlin Wall.
Hollywood could help a little by promoting biracial romantic couples.

And so could Brazilian television and magazines but wait all you see on those things are whites whites whites don't complain about the US when you own f*****g country is messed up on the race issue.

[MALCOM X]

HERE IS A LIST OF ALL OF THE BLACK AFRO AMERICAN TV SHOWS AND BOY IS IT A LONG LIST
1)FAMILY MATTERS
2)THE FRESH PRINCE OF BEL AIR
3)GOOD TIMES
4)HANGIN WITH MR.COOPER
5)MY WIFE AND KIDS
6)DIFFERENT STROKES
7)THE JEFFERSONS
ONE ON ONE
9)THE PARKERS
10)MY BROTHER AND ME
11)SOUTH CENTRAL
12)HALF AND HALF
13)GIRLFRIENDS
14)WHATS HAPPENING
15)WEBSTER
16)THE COSBY SHOW
17)THE JAMIE FOXXX SHOW
18)THE WAYANS BROTHERS
19)THE PJS
20)ABBY
21)PROUD FAMILY
22)THATS SO RAVEN
23)SOUL FOOD
24)JETT JACKSON
25)KENAN AND KEL
26)SISTER SISTER
27)227
28)SPARKS
29)AMEN
30)GOOD NEWS
31)THE HUGHLEYS
32)MALCOM AND EDDIE
33)PLATINUM
34)IN THE HOUSE
35)LIVING SINGLE
36)MARTIN
37)THE BERNIE MAC SHOW
38)THE DAVE CHAPELLE SHOW
39)THE CHRIS ROCK SHOW
40)THE WAYNE BRADY SHOW
41(THE OPRAH WINFREY SHOW
AND THOSE ARE JUST OF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AS I KNOW THERE PLENTY OF OTHERS INCLUDING THE MIXED SHOWS WITH EQUAL PROPORTIONS OF BLACKS AND WHITES LIKE
1)BOSTON PUBLIC
2)CITY GUYS
3)NEW YORK UNDERCOVER
4)21 JUMP STREET
NOW HOW MANY BLACK TV SHOWS ARE THERE IN BRAZIL OH YEAH I FORGOT JUST ONE HOW PATHETIC IS THAT A TURMA DO GETO.ONLY ONE THATS THE BEST BRAZIL HAS TO OFFER AND ITS 2003 FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.

[Brazuca]

How many blonde TV shows are there in the US? Not many, huh? Then the US sucks!

[Macunaima]

f**k, now he's down to judging a culture by the type of T.V. crap it produces?

What a f*****g moron!

I could right a similarly long list of Afro-Brazilian musical forms, or religions, or art forms, or pretty much anything you like.

But no. AFROMORON knows what's truly valuable in this world: the f*****g Cosby Show.

Alienated little twat.

[MALCOM X]

I WOULD RATHER WATCH A SHOW WHERE I SEE PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE ME INSTEAD OF PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE YOU.

[MALCOM X]

BRAZIL AINT BLACK ENOUGH FOR ME TO LIVE IN UNLESS YOU CAN RECOMMEND ANY BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS IN RIO BUT OH WAIT I FORGOT THEY DONT EXIST.YOU SEE I LIKE TO LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE I DONT SEE ANY PINK AND PALE PEOPLE LIKE YOU MACUCU BUT THATS IMPOSSIBLE IN BRAZIL.I LIKE TO LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I KNOW ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE BLACK AND THATS WHAT I LOVE ABOUT AMERICA IS THAT EVERY BIG CITY US BLACK FOLKS HAVE OUR OWN BARRIOS.

[Brazuca]

Don't you like "white" people, Brother Malcolm? If not, why not?

[Macunaima]

"I WOULD RATHER WATCH A SHOW WHERE I SEE PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE ME INSTEAD OF PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE YOU."

I would much rather not f*****g watch T.V. AT ALL. Thankfully, I live in a country where there are many forms of entertainment that have nothing to do with sitting in front of a screen. And the vast majority of these either are or are influenced by African-Brazilian culture.

But you continue on with your boob-tube gazing son. Different strokes for different folks. Hey! Wasn't "Different Strokes" a black T.V. program too?

"BRAZIL AINT BLACK ENOUGH FOR ME TO LIVE IN."

Thank God.

[Garrincha]

BRAZIL AINT BLACK ENOUGH FOR ME TO LIVE IN UNLESS YOU CAN RECOMMEND ANY BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS IN RIO BUT OH WAIT I FORGOT THEY DONT EXIST.YOU SEE I LIKE TO LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE I DONT SEE ANY PINK AND PALE PEOPLE LIKE YOU MACUCU BUT THATS IMPOSSIBLE IN BRAZIL.I LIKE TO LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I KNOW ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE BLACK AND THATS WHAT I LOVE ABOUT AMERICA IS THAT EVERY BIG CITY US BLACK FOLKS HAVE OUR OWN BARRIOS.

Then go to Africa. Highest percentage blacks guaranteed.

[Guest]

BRAZIL AINT BLACK ENOUGH FOR ME TO LIVE IN UNLESS YOU CAN RECOMMEND ANY BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS IN RIO BUT OH WAIT I FORGOT THEY DONT EXIST.YOU SEE I LIKE TO LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE I DONT SEE ANY PINK AND PALE PEOPLE LIKE YOU MACUCU BUT THATS IMPOSSIBLE IN BRAZIL.I LIKE TO LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I KNOW ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE BLACK AND THATS WHAT I LOVE ABOUT AMERICA IS THAT EVERY BIG CITY US BLACK FOLKS HAVE OUR OWN BARRIOS.

Then go to Africa. Highest percentage blacks guaranteed.

So original usually the rant of a KKK nut. Wait although Afroman is a thorn in the arse you can't make him

[MALCOM X]

I DONT NEED TO GO TO AFRICA TO SEE ALOT OF BLACK PEOPLE AND ONLY A WHITE PERSON WOULD TELL A BLACK MAN TO GO BACK TO AFRICA WHY DONT YOU GO BACK TO EUROPE YUPPIE.BESIDES WHERE I LIVE IT CAN BE CONSIDERED AFRICA IN THE U.S LOL.

[Guest]

BRAZIL AINT BLACK ENOUGH FOR ME TO LIVE IN UNLESS YOU CAN RECOMMEND ANY BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS IN RIO BUT OH WAIT I FORGOT THEY DONT EXIST.YOU SEE I LIKE TO LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE I DONT SEE ANY PINK AND PALE PEOPLE LIKE YOU MACUCU BUT THATS IMPOSSIBLE IN BRAZIL.I LIKE TO LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I KNOW ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE BLACK AND THATS WHAT I LOVE ABOUT AMERICA IS THAT EVERY BIG CITY US BLACK FOLKS HAVE OUR OWN BARRIOS.

Yeah, you prefer to not learn anything about other people, you just want a reflection of your ignorant black ass!

[MALCOM X]

YEAH DIFFERENT STROKES IS A BLACK SHOW CAUSE THE MAIN CHARACTER IS BLACK YOU KNOW GARY COLEMAN WHAT DID YOU THINK HE WAS RUSSIAN MACUCU YOU HONKY IDIOT.

[Brazuca]

Don't you like "white" people, Brother Malcolm? If not, why not?

[MALCOM X]

DO I LIKE WHITE PEOPLE,DO YOU LIKE BLACK PEOPLE BRAZUCA.

[Brazuca]

If by "black" people you mean dark-skinned people, I have no reason to dislike them generically. How about you? Do you like "white" people, meaning light-skinned people who'd be identified as "white" by US American ethnic/racial taxonomy?

[MALCOM X]

I HAVE A PROBLEM AGAINST WHITE PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT BLACKS SHOULDNT LEARN ABOUT THEIR AFRICAN ANCESTORS AND CULTURES IN SCHOOL.

[Brazuca]

Which do you think is better in a society -- racial division or little to no racial distinctions?

[Estudante do Brasil]

Then we should see an inverse pattern in the distribution of civilizations. But we don't. What we see is a slight high for the med type of biome and about equal lows for tropical and cold. That's a poor analysis, however, because it compares one biome type with two enormous climatic regions. If we were to really break down distributions into biomes, the med type's lead in generating civilizations would be huge and true tropical rain forest - the most diverse area on the planet - would actually have MORE civilizations than, say, the steppes or the tundra.

So apparently there is no across-the-board correlation between biodiversity and number of civilizations. Nice theory, though. Too bad data from the real world fucks it up, but that's usually what happens with text book theories.

Certamente vocíª me convenceu de que a sentença "quanto mais quente e úmido, maior a biodversidade, menor a chance de civilização" não í© válida para todos os casos.

Mas isto não significa que a grande biodiversidade não atua como um fator, entre outros, para prejudicar o nascimento de uma civilização. Quando vocíª compara a tundra que tem menos civilização que a floresta equatorial, vocíª demonstra que outros fatores ( o frio demasiado e o solo congelado grande parte do ano ) são mais prejudiciais a agricultura sedentária e a formação de cidades que a grande quantidade de microorganismos a prejudicar as plantações na zona tropical.

Quanto ao fato da maior concentração de civilizações em zona mediterrí¢nea, me parece que lá existe uma espí©cie de ponto de equilí­brio. Não há tantos microorganismos quanto na zona tropical, nem tanto frio quanto na tundra. Há uma boa umidade em parte do ano, e uma boa biodiversidade de plantas que podem ser domesticadas para a agricultura sedentária.

Bem, vocíª me provou que a realidade í© bem mais complexa que nossa tentativas de entendíª-la. Mas isto não impede que continuemos tentanto.

E meu ponto de partida í© a seguinte janela: a cultura humana í© a interação entre o legado gení©tico e o desafio ambiental. A cultura humana í© resposta a este desafio.

[Macunaima]

Certamente, o meio-ambiente afeita o desenvolvimento das formas culturais humanas. O que NíƒÆ’O faz í© determiná-las.

Dizer que o meio-ambiente determina a história í© como dizer que a estrada determina o motivo da viagem. História í© um artefato humano e a cultura não í© nada, se não a história.